Why Olympic Hopefuls Love “Ted Lasso”
The TV show “Ted Lasso” has captivated the nation with its humor, heartfelt lessons, and athletic triumphs. Olympic hopefuls are no exception; Kristi and friend/ teammate Hannah Paynter sit down on the podcast to discuss why they love the show so much and how the lessons on screen are reflected in their daily lives and rowing pursuits.
*This is an automatically generated transcript*
Kristi Wagner 0:00
I thought it would just be fun this week where we can talk about the great show of Ted Lasso.
Hannah Paynter 0:10
So Ted offering like the fans to come watch practice. I love that that a lot of us don't have a lot of time or like energy to do like social media stuff, but like you doing this podcast and like going a lot of people kind of know that like the journey is something that can be shared. And so I feel like when he started inviting people to practice the little sound of music, goodbye farewell song whoever like a rock did actually like this is the most wholesome thing.
Kristi Wagner 0:39
Welcome to the other three years, a show for anyone who has an Olympic sized dream, they want to turn into a reality. Hi, and welcome to this week's episode of the other three years. This week is a super fun episode, I honestly training has been a little bit intense. And things have been a tiny bit stressful just because I've been at camp and we have trials coming up. And so I thought it would be really fun to just sit down with one of my Arion teammates Hannah and talk about one of our favorite TV shows Ted lasso. So if you haven't seen Ted lasso, I 100% recommend it. And if you haven't seen it, this episode is probably not going to make that much sense. But honestly, it might. So don't press pause right away. Ted lasso just aired its third season, it's on Apple TV.
Honestly, you could binge the whole show pretty quick. But it's just like so the plot of the show is that this American football coach, his name is Ted gets hired by a British soccer football soccer team to be their coach. And he goes with his like assistant whose named Beard. And obviously, they don't know anything about soccer, their football coaches, American football coaches. And the show was just like, heartwarming in so many ways. It's about sports, it's about life. It's about getting over things and accepting your life growing as a person. Like there are lots of different characters who have different story arcs, different narratives. And it kind of all comes back to sports like time and again, because that is the main premise of the show. But really, it's about so much more than sports like. And I think as an athlete, it just meant a lot because really, like we're doing all of this to win races and be good athletes, but at the same time, that's not what it's about. And that's not what you remember in the end. And so it just it tugs at your heartstrings. Ted lasso and makes you laugh and cry. It's just a great show. And I thought it would just be fun to Hannah, my friend, Hannah. Teammate, Hannah is a huge Ted lasso fan. And so I just thought it'd be really fun to connect with her and we would just chat about the show. And that would be our episode this week. So I had planned on it being a little bit shorter but the two Gabby gals that we are we we chatted a fair bit. And Hannah is has been my teammate at Arion for a few years now. But she's very accomplished and successful rower on her own and got got a lot lot left to do as well. She's still on the pretty young side. So she's from Connecticut. And she rowed for, I think, arguably like one of the best she's from like the town lime, old lime. And I think I think I mean, such a great town name and, and they like CO team is like the blood street skulls, which is a hilarious, hilarious rowing club name. So that's where she wrote in high school. And then she wrote in college at Princeton, and rowed on the u 23. National Team. And then she worked as a teacher and was doing some volunteer coaching at Princeton, before she moved to Saratoga and has been part of Arion for gosh, three years at this point, I think. I don't know Hannah factcheck me if I'm wrong. And she's this past year have been part of the pan-am team, where she raised at the pre pan-am games and And they did really well and came in second, I think and qualified for the Pan Am Games. So yeah, Hannah's little superstar. And she had been sculling like what I do with two oars and made a switch to sweeping. So a lot of versatility and I think a lot of like, ups and downs on that on that path, a bunch of our teammates, so it's just weeping sweeping this year. So I think it can be hard to go back and forth. And it's it's kind of uncharted waters, but a boom for Arion, we've mostly done sculling. So it's been really cool to see them, you know, taking the path less traveled, and, you know, doing really well on that front and just pumped to see them keep, keep working at it and keep chipping away. So yeah, super fun conversation, Hannah had a lot of good things to say. And it was, it was just fun. Hopefully, this inspires you to watch Ted lasso and chase all your dreams, because you can do it. But before we get into that, here is an update on what's currently going on with my training. So I am still in Princeton, New Jersey. And I am right now gearing up for the last national team trials. So at the end of next week, so July 27, I think it begins are the last trials to qualify for the senior national team for this summer. And at that trial, the women's double the men's single men's pair, and then the lightweight, men's and women's single pair, and quad will all be decided. So basically, people can enter anyone can enter this race. And then if you win any of those races, you will represent the US at the World Championships later this summer. So Sophia and I, who I rode with last year at the World Championships, and then this year at the Second World Cup will be racing in the women's double. And we're hoping to win that race and, and race at the World Championships. But I think really, like you can't get ahead of yourself. And you have to just focus on the day to day and we just want to have a really good race, obviously on that day and doing the things that we need to do to put ourselves in the best position, you know, at the end of next week to have a really good regatta and a really good, really good couple of days of racing. Obviously, it's a bit stressful, it's kind of a win or go home. situation. So it it's the kind of thing where, of course, I'm nervous, and of course, I'm stressed and the pressure kind of mounts as you get closer to it. But you also can't let the pressure like overwhelm you. It's also a bit of an interesting situation, because all of the other boats, all the camp boats have been named so far. So basically everyone that we're around, has been named to the team and is now like starting their training for the World Championships. But obviously, we will race at this trial. So yeah, it's definitely like, you know, you're a little jealous of the people that are in the situation where they know they're going, but this is this is, you know, our reality. And, and I think in sports, and in anything that's competitive, like you have to show why you're the right person every day, you have to earn your seat every day. So I you know, you have to put your best foot forward every day and that's just what we have to do. But, of course, a little bit of nerves, a little bit of anxiety. And just, you know, looking forward to, to finishing out this week of really good training, getting, you know, a few more good workouts in under our belts and then getting ready for race week, which it's also so fun to race and the fact that we get to have another race opportunity this year is is actually very exciting and something that we shouldn't be upset about. So I think is just trying to see it all as positives but Obviously, like, when there's pressure, and when there's like stakes on the line, it does make it more nerve wracking. And that's just, I guess, the name of the game.
But other than that, you know, things are good. The the second selection camp just wrapped up as I was kind of just saying, which is kind of mixed emotions, like, obviously, some people made boats, and they're really happy and some people didn't. And they're obviously not happy. And it's, it's sports, and there are cuts, and there's setbacks. It's all part of it, and any athlete has experienced both sides of that. But I think just trying to, you know, support each other. And I've just obviously, you know, when my friends and teammates, like, achieve things, I'm so happy for them, and when they don't achieve what they want to like, just trying to be there for them as a teammate, but I think more as a friend and, you know, you care about the people that you care about, and want them to do things that make them happy. And when they're unhappy, you feel that unhappiness, like it's just a part of life. And so it's been a bit of like a mixed bag and trying to support people in both situations, like the best that we can. But it's always kind of a hard time when boats are named, and the final cuts are made, especially like if you made it all the way to the end of camp and then got caught that can. That's just like a really tough thing. And there's no like, there's nothing that makes you feel better, you know, and it's just time Time heals all wounds. I watched the Wimbledon, men's final on Sunday, we had Sunday off and spent whatever five hours watching the epic Wimbledon final. And it was just like, so great, obviously, such a good like, battle. And like, obviously, Alcaraz came out on top, and they're interviewing Djokivic At the end, and he's like, Yeah, I mean, I'll probably wake up tomorrow and feel proud of what I've done. But right now, like, it just hurts. And I like have, I resonated with that so much, because I think that it's so hard in the moment to see like the bigger picture and have clarity and all of those things. But it takes you know, sometimes it takes a day sometimes takes a week, sometimes a month, sometimes a year. But you are always able to kind of see past like setbacks and quote unquote, failures and that kind of thing. Other than I mean, it's been hot. I feel like that's a that's one notable takeaway, very sweaty. But other than that things are good. It's a bit of an interesting life living in a hotel. I wish I could say it was as exciting as it sounds. And this is actually a nice hotel, like we stay in a extended stay. So there's kind of a common room with a kitchen and all the rooms have their own bathrooms and stuff. So that's good, but it's just like, not a home. And it's not your home, obviously. So it can get it can wear on you a little bit. But I think the fact that we have trials coming up is exciting because it's like a break and stuff. You know, like it's something to look forward to you that's like, you know, a break in the kind of not monotony, but repetition. But, yeah, I feel like I'm so used to just being like on the go and from one place to another at home. And I don't feel like I'm always I'm ever, like sitting down, really. And now I'm in the hotel room when I'm not at practice. So I've been trying to just go for walks, but it's so hot outside. So sometimes I walk around the mall that we live next to because it's air conditioned in there. But I think being able to clear your head and just get away from things can be really helpful. And yeah, trying to do some fun stuff, whatever that means. We might have a little cookout or something, but really, we're in the grind right now. So that's kind of where we are. I wish I had more exciting things to report but right now just really trying They keep stacking up those good practices and keep my head cool and calm steady. So that next week we can be ready to race and ready to crush it. So now it is time for the meat and potatoes part of the episode our really fun, really exciting hot takes on TED Lasso, the Apple TV show. I, again, I talked with my teammate and friend, Hannah painter, who was a massive Ted Lasso fan, as am I. And we just talked about the show what inspired us what we liked. What are notable takeaways were quotes. I guess, I guess you should just listen up because I don't want to give it all away right now. And you're in luck, because the here it is.
Hi, Hannah. Thank you for coming on. And I thought it would just be fun this week to like, Have a fun, a fun week where we can talk about the great show of Ted Lasso, amazing. Yeah. And I feel like it's on brand because the Women's World Cup is about to start. And because it's just a great show.
Hannah Paynter 16:38
Perfect.
Kristi Wagner 16:39
Yeah. So I did I did a little bit of research just so that I could, you know, come come back up. Also, we should say that there will probably be many spoilers in this. So if people have not watched you should go watch. But yes, I feel like we won't. We won't hold anything back. So I I rewatched it all this year. I don't know about you.
Hannah Paynter 17:11
I probably have, not intentionally. I know Veronica hadn't watched it. And so we were watching the first season before I left for camp. And so I don't think I rewatched Season Two in a little bit. But I watched Season Three like as it came out every week. So I feel like I'm pretty fresh on everything.
Kristi Wagner 17:34
Which season did you like the best? Oh,
Hannah Paynter 17:40
I feel like season one goes through like it's just like, perfect. I don't know. Like, I feel like they just crushed it. Like they introduced so many different, so many different like characters. And you're kind of like in the trenches of kind of the starting point for every character. And you know that like, there's going to be growth, you can just get that sense watching the show. But you're kind of like in that almost like reality TV kind of thing where you're watching, you're like screaming at your television, like, no, be a good person. Like, listen to Ted have faith in him. And in that way, I feel like it has like a special place. But then watching like the second season unfold, you're like, just like brimming with a sense of like hope because you can see the things starting to fall into place. And you can see things working. But then like, I don't know, I'm kind of, I'm not sure where season one. Like, I haven't refreshed myself, so I'm not sure. But then season three is like everything coming to a head. So it's all very exciting. Like I probably cried the most during season three, just because I was like so overwhelmed by how everything came together when things weren't looking good. And slowly but surely things start to fall into place, though like season finale was incredible. I don't know. Like there are a lot of memes about the number of callbacks. Like almost every detail is a callback to some other thing happening in the show. So if you'd like those kinds of nuggets season three is for you. I
Kristi Wagner 19:28
feel like the finale was actually really good. Like as far as finales go
Hannah Paynter 19:35
right? Yeah.
Kristi Wagner 19:38
Yeah, like it did. It did like pack things up, but like leave Yeah, leave a little bit open. Which
Hannah Paynter 19:46
I mean, I'm so here for the spin off idea of having just Rebecca and Keeley running a women's team. That was my favorite then they brushed through it so quickly and I was like wait that I want more I need to see that happen. So maybe we'll get I don't know, Megan Rapinoe will get on board and push for it to happen. I don't know if she's even a fan of the show. You know, we just needed like someone to be the catalyst.
Kristi Wagner 20:17
I was wondering if soccer players are fans of the show. Like, yeah,
Hannah Paynter 20:24
I hope they are. Yeah,
I mean, I wonder like, also the reception has gotten like in the UK, in general, because like, watching it in the states, like, I don't know, you got a little bit of the like, Oh, this is just like British culture. I'm eating this up. This is why watch love Island. It's hilarious. And like, you just get this window into another part of like the world through that. But I wonder if it like hits home? The way that like Ted's little like, sort of, like Midwestern mannerisms hit home the same way? I don't know.
Kristi Wagner 21:02
Yeah, that's a good question. I have no idea. Like, what its kind of global performance is like,
Hannah Paynter 21:12
because, like, I have fallen a little bit of the Premier League in my life. And like, it seems like I went to a game in reading once, like 2017 or something. And this guy got like a red card in the first minute. I think it was like 45 seconds in, this player gets a red card. And when I say we're, we're in, we're watching film. And so we were in like the away section. And there weren't many of us. Compared to all of the reading fans and everyone around me like young old like, from probably like age, like four up to like 92 Everyone erupted stuff in their chairs was giving like, like they've said in season one like the wanker calls, like, it was worse. Like that, like the hand gestures, the screaming people were we were in like a corner. And so like the await, like fans were here. And the home fans are here on the other edge of the corner. And people were like picking other fans across the corner, and like threatening them. Just like screaming at them. Like they were so intense. And so I feel like at least when I watched the show, I was like, Oh my gosh, this is just like my experience. Like, this is what this is what like soccer means to people. And just like sports in general, I feel like anyone who's a hardcore fan like, they do get that invested. I don't know.
Kristi Wagner 22:43
No, I agree. I low key feel like the fans aspect of it is like one of my and I loved like, in the finale when she's like selling the team and then like sells it to the
Hannah Paynter 22:56
paper. Yeah, like,
Kristi Wagner 22:58
because like, I mean, I grew up in Boston, like, people are like a die hard sports fan. Like that's like a thing right now. And I feel like usually, Sports TV shows aren't. Like, that's not a part of it.
Hannah Paynter 23:12
Right? Right. And like Ted offering, like the fans to come watch practice. I love that, that I loved it because I was just like, it's a window. And like, I feel like even like us rowing. Like, a lot of us don't have a lot of time or like energy to do like social media stuff, but like, you're doing this podcast and like, I feel like a lot of people kind of know that. Like the journey is something that can be shared. And so I feel like when he started inviting people to practice and like, the little sound of music, goodbye farewell song ever, like a rock did I'm just like, this is the most wholesome thing. And it's just like, a combination of like, not being not taking yourself too seriously. But then like, acknowledging like, this is a shared experience too. Oh, I could go on you know, this is it.
Kristi Wagner 24:07
No, I know. And I was trying so like I was trying to think about like how we have this conversation and like how to formulate like, okay, like what are our key takeaway, you know, moments from the show or whatever. And I was just trying to like think about it and I was like, honestly, the singing for me. The like, between the performances that they put on the team and their little dance moves and stuff and then Rebecca singing in these like key moments ever just like unexpected, amazing. Like but yeah, are there any like? Are there any like moments or like episodes that you would say? Just like are really like what you did not like what you remember what you remember, but kind of as like an athlete, what you'd say were the most like, inspirational or like real life. Like, just put you on the spot.
Hannah Paynter 25:16
No, it's good. Um, one thing that like, I think stuck with me in a way that like I've never seen in television before was like, how, like, I then actually watched like the other Apple TV show, shrinking, but like talking about therapy, and like how uncomfortable Ted was with Dr. Sharon, and like, how he's usually so disarming, but like, she disarmed him and kind of their growth together. I feel like just the takeaway, that everyone can benefit from therapy and like, not just athletes, but coaches. And like, that was a big and that's not just one episode. But, and then the other. I love the relationship between Ted and Ted Krim or Trent Krimm. Just because I feel like he is one of the first people in the show to like, recognize the strengths that Ted brings, and like, the magic of believing and being open and being, you know, just like he sees him for this, like genuine person that TED is, and like, in that first, like day that they go on that inner like, day long interview, where he's like, watching practice, he's going to the kids school to like, watch him and Roy like, play with the kids and like, then they go to that restaurant where it was like his Uber driver, and he told the Uber driver that he would come to his restaurant, but like, everybody, like he invites everyone to his restaurant. And he's like, Well, of course, I'm gonna come and then he's like, Oh, we got to put a good dent in this and like, he's like, Oh, make it like, I'm part of the family. You know, he just like, is so genuine about like, creating those connections with people. And then, at the end of the episode, they like read Trent's, like op ed, basically, about Ted. And I think it ends with like, but I can't help but root for him. Like, even if he does fail, and kind of just that idea, I think he says it at the dinner table. It's like, success isn't about the wins and losses. It's about like helping, like these fellows, like become the best versions of themselves, on and off the field. And so I feel like, for me as an athlete, but like, I also am very passionate about like education. I want to go into teaching or coaching. And so I feel like that, like, hit home so much, because it's like, yeah, we're all trying to like go for these goals, whether it's like, playing at the World Cup and winning for the women, but like, for us rowing, like, yeah, we're trying to make the national team and we're trying to like, win medals for our country, but like, the real goal is to actually just become the best version of yourself, right? Like, yeah, I feel like I tried to like come back to that in times of like stress or like trying to level out the highs and the lows to say a little bit even keel so I feel like that episode were like, Trent's like picking up on like the genius of Ted. Yeah, I feel like that's like my favorite episode. And of course, it comes back in the finale when he like meets. What's his name? Not Peppa. Oh, what's his name?
Kristi Wagner 28:46
Oh, the other final? Yeah,
Hannah Paynter 28:49
he was like, based on pebble Yeah, I think, oh, I shouldn't do that. But um, when whatever. He's like talking to me. He like basically quotes himself, and I'm validated by like, my phone coach. But yeah, I feel like that's my I don't know. Do you have a favorite one? Share it.
Kristi Wagner 29:13
I don't know. It's really hard. I know my I definitely have two favorite episodes. One is like the Christmas episode. Where they all go to the Higgins. Yeah, and so like, yeah, and Ted and Rebecca. Go and give presents to like all of those kids and I don't know. I just like I think I just love Christmas. So I like that episode. But I also loved the Amsterdam episode and season three. I feel like I've had for so many
Hannah Paynter 29:52
reasons. Yes. My favorite scene in that episode is like not like a genuine reason. I guess not. Like a deep reason button when Roy is learning how to bike, Oh, I almost peed myself. Like I rewatched that scene at least four or five times, just watching him like try to balance on the bike
and fall over and he like picks the bike up. It's the best montage in comedic history. I don't know. I love it.
Kristi Wagner 30:25
But I feel like I loved all of the kind of normal things that the team would do. Because I feel like that's what life actually is. Like, we go on trips. And I mean, I wish we watched like Team movies the night before races.
Hannah Paynter 30:44
I know. I do too.
Kristi Wagner 30:46
But I feel like things are just like, so chill. And it's, you know, what are you going to do? No one knows people can ever make a plan. Like, I don't know, I just feel like that is really what you're what life is like. And I like that. They're not like glorifying it and making it seem like people are like doting on them. And you know, I don't know.
Hannah Paynter 31:09
And when they were like, Oh, you don't have a curfew tonight. They're all like, Oh, we don't know. Yeah. Yeah, um, I do think we should also have a team pillow fight. Just so I was the best team member. So silly. Yeah, and I loved what else was there, there was one scene where they were talking about like, trick plays or something. And I loved that they like, you know, if they're playing like, we're all do anyone in sports, like we're just playing a sport, like it's a game. There's like, yes, there's strategy and training and the physiological like science, but like, I think he says something like, and let the chaos rain down upon our I was like, chaos agents. They're everywhere. But I love that one.
Kristi Wagner 32:00
Yeah, I think that my favorite. Like, I do agree. I loved the Sharon, kind of arc. A lot. But I think my favorite, like, character development storyline was definitely Jamie. Like, it has to be Yeah, it has to be. It's and they teed You up for it. But even then, it's all unexpected. Like, I don't know, that's the brilliance I think of the show is like, it's expected, but it's still great. Like everything, even if you kind of thought it was gonna happen. Like, it still exceeds your expectations.
Hannah Paynter 32:37
Right. Right.
And I think it's hard to like watching, like, kind of the opposite, like the ark, or the fall of Nate. Right? Like, there's an occupation, right? And you like hope that there's going to be like, you see him starting to go evil. Like they're like those moments where, like, Ted isn't perfect Ted and like, kind of makes me feel worse about himself or like, less valued. And so you can kind of like, again, you see it coming, you're like, Okay, maybe it's about to go through something. And the whole thread of like forgiveness through the show, and I feel like that's not really relevant. Like, just to sport right, like, forgiving, or, like, not taking revenge or like, knowing that anyone can redeem themselves is like, a very, like mature thought to have and I feel like it's like so relatable to watch these characters. Like Rebecca, even in the first season. She's terrible. But like, it's, it's relatable. You're like, yeah, like when someone hurts you like that's where your mind goes. And it just takes so much to be like, Oh, I'm gonna give them another shot like Ted forgiving Rebecca or beard forgiving Nate. In season three, it's just like forgiveness is powerful and like, what is the quote with Jamie's like, f*ck you. And then thank you. I don't know if we do what we did. Last year few thank you. And yeah, just recognizing that like, you can be hurt but you can still like learn from it, I guess. I don't know.
Kristi Wagner 34:25
No, I was like, one of the deeper theme. Yeah. Is just forgiveness and like, meeting people where they are and understanding you know, which I'd say the deeper arc or whatever is like Ted understanding his dad's death and and right coming, you know, like the mom mom's episode was also so good. Like, it just, they're saying so much in this show that has such a like fluffy you know, point, like it just I don't know. I feel like it's so good. Yeah.
Hannah Paynter 35:03
I would love to like be in the room where it happens on the show actually, like, how did they decide like, all like, did they sit down and like list out their like core values? Or like, what's missing in society? What did we need?
Kristi Wagner 35:19
I know what like, what was the purpose? Like what? Yeah, what were they trying to accomplish? And like, did they have the finish? Like did they know it was gonna be three seasons? Did they know like, right how it was gonna end?
Hannah Paynter 35:36
I don't I'm sure there's interviews with all of those writers but you just as you watch it like that's where your mind goes because it's so thoughtfully done. You know, you're like, This is all it's like watching a heist movie, right? Because you're like watching it all unfold and you're like, oh my gosh, they thought of everything. I don't know. I'm trying to think of other things. We should also bring in the the Diamond Dogs into the diamond are our teams.
I think training you just got it. Like, all right, everybody helped me with my problems. Because that again, that's just like a disarming way to like, get everybody together, you know? But no, do you have any other questions? Like I could ramble about?
Kristi Wagner 36:27
No. Um, well, I feel like I did just try to like, write down some of my favorite quotes. I mean, I obviously love the be a goldfish moment. Yeah, like Yeah, can't Can't forget it. So good.
I like
the harder you work the luckier you get. Which is not really a TED lasso quote. But
Hannah Paynter 37:01
that's we get it's right there though.
Kristi Wagner 37:04
Yeah. Oh, I love these are some kind of funny ones. But he's, there's two buttons. I never like to hit panic and snooze. Hilarious.
Hannah Paynter 37:18
So many of those little nuggets there. So yeah. Yeah.
Kristi Wagner 37:24
I know. But I feel like he also says like, like, he's like, you know, they say youth is wasted on the young. Well, I say don't let the wisdom of age be wasted on you. Like doing the right thing is never the wrong thing. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I think things come into our lives to help us get from one place to a better one. Oh, and the whole thing about like, being when they lose, and he's like, we can be sad together. Like,
Hannah Paynter 37:58
yeah. Oh,
Kristi Wagner 38:01
because it's so true. Like, I feel like there is nothing worse than being sad alone.
Hannah Paynter 38:08
Right. And like, feeling lucky to like, have people around you while you're sad? Yeah. And I think too, like I just rewatched this episode recently of Rebecca going on, like, their double date with like, this guy she's seeing or whatever. I can't remember his name. But I think Keeley is like, oh, yeah, he's like, He's great. He's in the right, like income bracket for you. Or like, whatever. Like, these things that like on paper matter, but like, don't actually tell you like, who is your person? And Roy's. I think he's like, he's fine. But like, Don't you dare settle for fine like you do? You deserve someone who makes you feel like you've been struck by lightning. And he drops like eight squares in there because he's Roy. And like, Keeley saying, like accountability matters, Jamie. And I'm like, walking off you like, just like these microp moments where the characters like don't, for lack of a better term, like don't bullsh*t each other. They like, level with them and tell them how it is. And I feel like I appreciate that about the show so much too, because you can see it on the character faces when they don't tell you what they're thinking. I think the actors did like a great job and then it always comes out eventually like yeah,
Kristi Wagner 39:41
they all have so much wisdom.
Hannah Paynter 39:44
Right. Ahead ism. Yeah. No, go ahead.
Kristi Wagner 39:49
Oh, no, what's your favorite TED ism?
Hannah Paynter 39:52
Um, I really, like there. It's hard to pick one but like I said Actually this winter while we were kind of transitioning the sweep, rowing after sculling for like three years was taken on the challenge is a lot like riding a horse, ain't it? If you're comfortable while you're doing it, you're probably doing it wrong. Yeah,
Kristi Wagner 40:20
yeah, that one and the one that's like, your body's like day old rice if you don't warm it up properly, like, not gonna work or whatever. I'm like. Yeah, true. No, the, the taking on a horse or taking on a horse taking on challenge. Oh, I was just gonna say though, that I also like, love Higgins. Like,
Hannah Paynter 40:46
I love Hagen's. That whole part of Amsterdam where like, they don't know where they're going. He's like, we're going to the Red Light District and everyone's gonna. Just so funny. I mean, also, we have to talk about the beard episode. I don't remember what season two,
Kristi Wagner 41:00
I think it was season two.
Hannah Paynter 41:02
I have not beard wild character.
Kristi Wagner 41:06
I like I'm not I'm trying to think of like a, a character and another show that I can like compare him to? No, I don't. I'm I'm unsure.
Hannah Paynter 41:19
So we have a our assistant coach on Arion Steve fuller. I like want to imagine that. Like there are more parallels between beard than we might know. It's my conspiracy theory. Right? Because while you watch like beard exist, you're like, there's not a lot of people. I know like him. So my conspiracy theory is that Steve goes off and goes to these like, hole in the wall. Like prohibition type bars, because he has his happy hour lists. He does his research. You probably plays chess. I don't know. I don't know.
Kristi Wagner 42:01
beard's whole character development though. Like, I feel like I spent the whole time being like, Who is this guy? Like, why is he like, because you understand why TED is there? Right? They right? It all comes out. But you're like, why is beard here? Like what?
Hannah Paynter 42:21
Right? Like, you know that they coached together before? Right? But you
Kristi Wagner 42:25
don't know anything else like? And yeah, and he's quirky. So you're kind of like, well, maybe he's just quirky. Like, no,
Hannah Paynter 42:33
I mean, they don't even tell you his name until I think the last of Willis. Yeah, his name is Willis and right. There's like one little, I think moment during the show. I like watch, like, a video afterwards, because I follow all those accounts. And like, he goes, what you're talking about Willis? And that's the same. But yeah, you really don't know anything about like, why they work so well. Like you clearly can see that. Like, they're a good match for each other, like, meeting each other where they are, like you said, and I feel like when all of that comes out as beard is like trying to forgive me. And you're like, is he gonna murder him. But then he kind of like, lets it all out. And I think to just like, was another example of how this show deals with like real life things like, divorce is really hard. And like, especially when there's like a young kid involved. It's really hard and like, the show doesn't like shy away from those kinds of topics. And so like him talking about, like, going to prison and like, being stuck with like, getting out of like, that social scene and like that mindset. When you're like, you're down on your luck, and like there's nowhere else to turn and like, I don't know if you needed one more reason to love Ted. Like he's there for people no matter the circumstance. Yeah, and he just like never lets anything touch his ego. Right. Like, I don't know, magic. No.
Kristi Wagner 44:13
I know. And like him showing beard. The video of Nate. Like the longer video just
Hannah Paynter 44:23
made me a little uncomfortable though. I'm not gonna lie. Like,
Kristi Wagner 44:28
like when he's hiding under the desk.
Hannah Paynter 44:31
Yeah, I feel like
I feel like I either expected a character watching that kind of like a video to like, be laughing at it kind of like cruelly or on the other end of the spectrum, kind of like pitifully like, oh, no, like, look at him. And Ted was like neither of those things. Yeah, so I kind of was like trying to figure out what was going on in Ted's mind and I feel like only, like, only someone who's like, as secure. And I don't know, forgiving as Ted could like, watch that video back and be neither cruel. Nor pitying, you know?
Kristi Wagner 45:17
Yeah. I mean, I felt like it was it was just to show that things aren't always as they seem, and we don't know what's going on inside somebody's head and the narrative that, like we construct based on the information that we have, as you know, even if, like, We are half of the interaction, we're not we don't have all of the information from the other side. And I feel like that's Ted's whole thing is like, he's not. He's not pretending. And so he's just going to meet people where they are and serve the purpose that that he can serve. But I agree, like, that was so interesting. And I wasn't sure like, at first I thought you were supposed to have like, pity, like it was just supposed to cause pity. But I don't think it was.
Hannah Paynter 46:22
No, it was like that curiosity, like versus judgmental thread again, like, yeah, like, watch what he does next, like you think, you know, he's gonna do but like, We partied around him, and he just hid the whole time. Yeah. I feel like Nate's like, I don't know, it was interesting to to like I don't know, like, watch, Nate go through all of that, like, the first time he, like, you could see every time that he was mean to Ted, he had like a moment of hesitation. And maybe in private, maybe it was like, bending over, like under the desk or something. But
Kristi Wagner 47:08
I feel like Nate's character arc to me was like Ted's whole kind of theory behind coaching. And, like, I think that it that really came out to after, you know, Trent writes his book and calls it like the lasso away and Ted's like, it was never about me. And I feel like that's just exactly what we, I mean, I've, I feel like successful coaches that I've seen, it's not about them, and they know that and, like it is about them. And when you're on the team, it totally is about them. But to them, it's not about them. And I feel like that was what Nate was learning.
Hannah Paynter 47:54
Right? Yeah. Oh, my gosh, I love this show so much. Another thing that like, really struck me watching the show was the scene when, like, colin comes out to the team. And it's like, a disk. I can't remember like, the quotes from him, but it's a discussion of like, Oh, we don't care if you're gay was I think, like something that was said and times, like, no, like, we should care. We should care about every one's individual things and identities and what makes what's important to you, what makes you, you. And I feel like especially kind of in like, today's landscape of like, Oh, if we just ignore our differences, everything will be better. And you're like, we don't have to, I don't know, it was just kind of a statement from ted. asserting that like, caring is everything. And it's like how we form connections with people. I don't know that whole scene.
Kristi Wagner 49:11
I know. I did recently read this. Like stat about the Women's World Cup that there's whatever some number I'm not gonna get it right. It was like 48 players that are LGBTQ plus identified and then it was like at the Men's World Cup that over this past year there were zero. Like, That's just insane. There's a quote from
Hannah Paynter 49:42
Megan Rapinoe I think that's something like you we've never won a World Cup without like non straight players on the team. Like it's never been done. And if you think it has been done like it has, that's just like watching Colin go through that in internal struggle and like thank goodness for tranq frame and like watching from like the first season or the third season you're like, I never thought I would say thank goodness for camping. Like he's such a like button pusher and a cynic of everything. So watching the trent Krim go from that cynic to like Ted's biggest fan. Like there's one scene where he's like, one of the Diddy in the hallway, cheering on Ted's like whole thing coming together. But like that scene in Amsterdam episode where you like, Can level with Colin and be that ally for him? I think so crucial. Not something I saw coming. But most of the rest of the show, you're like, I kind of got it, but it's good.
Kristi Wagner 50:51
I know. I feel like we haven't really talked about Rebecca at all. But
Hannah Paynter 50:58
oh, my gosh, her power pose is legendary. Legendary, like, because I like whenever when I did my student teaching I like had my students do like a power pose before the test that, you know, they were taking that I wrote and like, was doing all my papers about. And they all like giggled at me and like, whatever we had, like tried it a few times, and more and more people started to do it. Rebecca just, I don't know, she like the whole scenes where she goes to those meetings for what was that league called? They were starting
Kristi Wagner 51:37
the guy we don't like's league Yeah.
Hannah Paynter 51:40
Yeah. Because what happens when you're an evil character, we don't even remember your name. But whatever. But she's invited to this, like, elite like very expensive All Star League meeting, and she's has a seat at the table, which is sick. And Rupert's, like, kind of not seeming like the biggest jerk in the world. And she like tells everybody off at the table for being money grabbers. And like, taking away from the fans what this means to people and like, just like plays the moral trump card on all of them. And I feel like when we read about like those leagues, or those business ventures where they're just trying to make the rich, richer, and all this stuff, like, as someone who doesn't have a seat at the table, all I want is for someone there to like, play that card. And Rebecca does it and she does it so well. And I feel like she's such an important, like role model for women. Like even if she's a fictional character, like, it's everything to have like her in that position. And yeah, just watch her kind of navigate being one of the few female owners of the team.
Kristi Wagner 52:56
Yeah. And like, I also love the whole, it doesn't really matter how you got there, or what the circumstances are. And like, it doesn't really matter. I mean, like with the whole show, like what you've done, it matters, like what you're going to do, and she takes her power you know, and transforms it. It's just like, so cool. And she believes in Ted like more than anyone else.
Hannah Paynter 53:27
Right? Right. And her Achilles relationship is so special, like, oh, women lifting up women like she's like it's not that hard. People like people take on jobs that like they're not qualified for all the time. And like just I feel like enables Keely to become a fellow like strong woman you know like Keeley has all of these strengths and doesn't put up with Jamie's like behavior and clearly has like a lot of strengths. When we like meet Keeley in the beginning of the show, and you just watch with like the mentorship from Ted and from Rebecca and like, even the like, growth together of Roy and Keely together to like, kind of pushing each other.
Yeah, you just kind of see that even it doesn't matter where you start, right? Like you said.
Kristi Wagner 54:29
Yeah. And you can be like any kind of strong woman like you can be a feminine, you can still be feminine, and be strong and wear those insane high heels that she were like, but that can be empowering. Like, I like that. Because this kind of always bothered me like, just as a theme in our culture. Like, if you're a girly girl or whatever, that maybe that means you're not like a strong woman. It's like well, who says you know you Right, you can, the whole concept should be that you can dress however you want and feel empowered. You shouldn't have to be you know, you shouldn't have to fit into anyone's there you
Hannah Paynter 55:12
have the full spectrum you have like like Healy's you have the Rebecca's you have the Barbara's brushes just like Barbara
The pantsuit.
And I also loved like the number of tall women cast in the show. Like, that doesn't happen a lot. And I was like, I don't know, taller woman. I feel like normalizing that was also really cool to see. The casting was always great. Phoebe like her Roy's niece, also one of my favorite characters. Like, she's just hilarious. And I feel like she had these moments where she just like also leveled with people and keep keep I put it on my tabs every time he swears hilarious. 1000s of dollars.
Kristi Wagner 56:04
They don't limit like where the lessons can come from. Like, Nora, like sassy's daughter hands out in the lesson. Like, it's it's just that's what's so cool is like, everyone can be empowered by everyone else. And so great. So great.
Hannah Paynter 56:25
Um, we can also really quickly do you believing in ghosts? Answer? No. Or like, whatever. Yes. And I believe they should believe in themselves. Like, do you believe in ghosts? More importantly, I think they should believe in themselves. And then immediately into like that, like?
What's it called?
Sacrifice around like that garbage?
Bin? Yeah.
Kristi Wagner 56:57
When one of the training room was haunted, or whatever.
Hannah Paynter 57:01
What an episode. Oh my gosh. Yeah. I loved that whole thing.
Kristi Wagner 57:07
Yeah, I just feel like as an athlete, like, there's so much that I can take away I mean, as a person, but like, I literally think about things from that show, like all the time. And it's just so nice. And I, and I just appreciate like, because one thing that I feel like I've, I've really found with Arion, and like now, like the national team, a bit is like developing, you know, relationships with different people. But like, in high school, in college, you have such a close bond with your team. And that's like, such a big part of sports. Because it's a shared experience. Like, I mean, life is all shared experiences, right? For people, but
Hannah Paynter 57:53
your shared goal, and
Kristi Wagner 57:55
yeah, and that a little bit is kind of taken away in elite rowing, like, especially when we're just in singles all the time. And so it's just so nice, like, seeing that, you know, adult men can do that. I mean, even if they're fictional, like, I know that it's real. Right? It's just so nice. Yeah.
Hannah Paynter 58:23
And just like, in general, like, how powerful kindness can be to like, when you're trying to go for, like, the peak potential of what your body can do and what like, the athletes of your country can put together like, it can feel kind of like, intimidating or cutthroat or, like, you feel like people are judging you. And I feel like that makes it are coming back to like, the things that Ted lasso kind of puts out there is like, well, how fast can I be instead of? Am I fast enough? Like, how fast can I be used like a curious versus judgmental or bringing out the best in everyone in your boat versus wanting to beat someone in the other boat? Is another you know, it's just thinking about sport as like a way to build each other up. And, like, be that best version? Not just for yourself, but like, can you bring the best out of everyone around you too. So like yeah, it's great if you're, like bringing the best out of your own self. But if you're putting everyone down in the process like Jamie or what's that crazy character's name? He's only there for like two or three episodes.
Kristi Wagner 59:43
Kava No. Call Zava. Kava. Kava is like Chipotle but great food great,
Hannah Paynter 59:50
and they have the best calories per dollar than Charlotte's products. But um yeah, like you have The superstars, but if they're not bringing the best out of the whole team, like, are they really a better asset to the team? You know, and I feel like Ted lasso explores like those team dynamics a ton, with Jamie being a ball hog or like, this concept of Total Football where everyone's everywhere all at once and is aware of how everyone else is moving? It's like, not the I or me show. It's everyone.
Kristi Wagner 1:00:26
Yeah, no 100% I mean, we were, I can't remember who I was talking with it about the other day. But like, that's like, rowing, right? Like, I mean, unless you're in a single, like, your job is to get the most out of every other person in your boat. And like, play a role where you can, where you can do that, like, make the boat as fast as as you can. And you can't do that alone. Like, if you get into boats, and you're just trying to be the superstar. Like, they're not going to go fast. And I think that's, that's hard, especially in like a camp environment, because you want to show that you are a superstar. So it's like, such a, such a, like, catch 22 Kind of,
and you're like, and especially Ted lasso, versus like what we're doing like, Intel, also, those guys are all together teammates, at least for a while, right? Like people get treated or things happen. But the rosters like mostly the same. And when you come to a selection camp, depending on that camps invite list, like, you are really quickly learning a lot about a lot of people. And you have to like, gel really quickly and figure out what makes everyone tick. I feel like half of the times we spin at selection camp, it's talking about like, what are you working on? And like, what can I do to bring out the best? Like, is there anything I can say? Is there any like focus we can do together? keywords that light you up? You know, like during a piece I have I say this word like, will you go a ton faster. So it feels like a group effort in that way. But you do have to learn really quickly. Like how to do that. I'm trying to think we've probably missed something huge initiative. Right? There's so much
I was trying to think, Okay, what's my like? key takeaway? It's,
Hannah Paynter 1:02:32
don't take yourself too seriously. Yeah, yeah. Believe. Believe.
It's funny, we were talking about like, actually, the hot take or have to delve into more with the Princeton Training Center, gals. And Jesse because they have a little mantra, that's, quote, no hope, just speed. And it's kind of like leaning into the side of things where you prepare so well, that you don't need to hope when you get to the start line, like because you have the confidence and like, the knowledge of your like, within yourself, that you're gonna go fast, right. But then the TED Lasso side of things would say, belief is everything. Like, quote, I believe in belief, and being like, open and courageous and like vulnerable, at the same time, like,
Kristi Wagner 1:03:27
literally makes that argument because like, what is it like, it's the hope that kills you. That's what they say. Yeah. And he's like, did they say, I don't? Like? I think it's when you stop having the hope that things go south. I mean, I understand. Like, I think it was Kelsey that told me about the no hope thing. And obviously, I've seen it in your group. And I think with the my sports psych would say, normalizing therapy. No, in no hope is like makes it an unhealthy slogan. Like, that kind of thing should be empowering, right? It shouldn't be like, whatever the word is, but like, it shouldn't be like down like, but I understand the concept behind it. And I do agree, like, you want to have done everything. Like my college coach used to always say, like, you want to prepare so that you can have an average day and like, it'll still outperform other people like you don't want to have to show up at the start line and have a one in a million day. Because like my chances that that's gonna happen is one in a million. Right. And I do get that but I think as far as like mantras and slogans that I want to repeat through my head like, I'd much rather be empowering and inspirational.
Hannah Paynter 1:04:58
Yeah, it's hard. cuz like he really relies on like that idea of believing to, like, I feel like when you're up against really, like, big odds, believing is so crucial because like that inner monologue or self doubt, like really shows itself when it's put under pressure. And so I feel like the idea of belief is like that competence. Yeah. And I loved there was one like callback. Kind of a weird part of the show. Is Rebecca going to that, like, one of the they call her psychic? The psychic? Yeah. And why I thought that whole thing was hilarious that the psychic says something about this mug that was broken and put back to that I can't remember the term. I think it was like a Japanese art form or something where you like glue it back together. But instead of masking where the cracks are, you paint them gold. And then when they put the believe sign back together, they use the gold glitter glue. Oh, my gosh,
Kristi Wagner 1:06:15
I was gonna say like, I do feel like my, like, I understand why they closed the show the way that they did, and you know, everything, but then like, going to their lockers and getting the pieces of the belief sign and like,
Hannah Paynter 1:06:30
pulled it out of the books that you gave.
Kristi Wagner 1:06:33
Like, I was like, I'm not okay.
Hannah Paynter 1:06:37
Yeah.
Kristi Wagner 1:06:40
Yeah, I feel like the reason that it hits home so much like as athletes is because you felt like we felt those bonds and those connections. And in the end, like, that's what sports is all about. It's about, of course, it's about the results. And it's about pushing yourself and stuff, but it's about the shared experience of that, that you have with other people. And that's what you remember. And so, like, oh. But I'm happy that Rebecca got the family that she wanted.
Hannah Paynter 1:07:17
And I'm happy that she stayed and, like didn't just sell the team, you know? Yeah, for a moment there. I was like, what's gonna happen? Like, looking a little slippery?
Kristi Wagner 1:07:30
I know. We're here for the NWSL expansion series that keep so like that's what I think they should do. Like Keeley and Rebecca come to America. And, like star, NwSL team, and then like, cameos with like, Megan Rapinoe or whatever. And Kelly O'Hara and Kelly Yeah, like recent
press all of them.
Did you see that? All right. Put a they're doing like a Netflix Docu series about
Hannah Paynter 1:08:03
Yeah. Wow, that this World Cup. I know. I have to figure out is it streaming peacock? Maybe? Yeah,
Kristi Wagner 1:08:14
I don't know. The games are all like three in the morning.
Hannah Paynter 1:08:18
Oh, yeah. Where is it New Zealand and Australia and
Kristi Wagner 1:08:21
in Australia. So might be
Hannah Paynter 1:08:25
maybe won't be watching for us. Yeah.
Kristi Wagner 1:08:31
It's so cool, though. Like the hype behind I mean, it's earned and like, it totally merited, but I just feel like it's so cool to see like, the kind of fan base that they have and the hype and everything. Like, I It's very inspirational. Of course, I wish that we could have like, teeny tiny bit of it, but that's okay. Yeah, be like, all of that. Oh, have you heard of my Taylor Swift jealousy? Quote? No, I It's not mine. It's Taylor Swift said like, Okay, whenever I'm jealous, I think well, that's amazing for them. And I hope something like that happens to me one day.
Hannah Paynter 1:09:15
That's good. Acknowledge and then manifest. Yeah, I love sports. I love sports so much. I love the number of like Docu series coming out about sports in general. And like, not just like, you know, I feel like for a really one time all the docs about sports were like, football and basketball. And I was like, yes, we know. I love football. I love basketball. But it's cool to see like the different like dynamics, I guess within all these different sports.
Kristi Wagner 1:09:44
Yeah. And how similar so many things are. I think it's really cool. All right, well, it's
Hannah Paynter 1:09:53
only a matter of time before they do rolling only matter of time.
Kristi Wagner 1:09:56
Not to put you on the spot again, but Christine and I were like maybe Hannah will have a question she can ask you for Ask Kristi anything. Anything coming to mind? It can be literally anything.
Hannah Paynter 1:10:13
Okay, the first thing that came to mind is silly, but I'll tell you what it was. If you have what does that show it? Guy theory? Grocery games? Maybe you know that one, or they like run around the store? Yes. Grocery urines Triple G Yes, yes. Instead of the Triple D for his other show. You're on Triple G. And the grocery store is Trader Joe's. Where do you go first? What do you what do you get? You have like 30 seconds to fill your cart with as much as you want. But what aisle do you pick
Kristi Wagner 1:10:54
what you like I won and so I'm in the shopping spree.
Hannah Paynter 1:10:57
Yeah, yeah, you're in the shopping spree. But it's Trader Joe's. And maybe a follow up question. I'm also interested because you've been going to Costco recently and haven't been a Costco go
Kristi Wagner 1:11:09
take your pick. Okay, well I feel like the Trader Joe's frozen section is just like unparalleled like they don't have that kind of frozen food anywhere else. So I would probably go there if I could only go to one aisle because I just yeah, that's definitely where I would go and that's a good aisle because like some of the other things I really like all the cookies and cookies and the candy right above above so So yeah, that's a good that's a good I'll and I would so I would get the fruit like obviously the orange chicken Why is it so delicious? Nothing in this life Is that good? I've been eating these like miniature frozen quiches from Trader Joe's. They're so good. They're so good. Wow. They're like $3 which is a little I mean, it's a little on the pricey side, but if it's like a full breakfast the like my burritos are like 2.50 So
Hannah Paynter 1:12:16
that's right there in the realm.
Kristi Wagner 1:12:18
But they're so good. And if they're that good
Hannah Paynter 1:12:22
worth extra 50 cents for sure. Yeah.
Kristi Wagner 1:12:26
Obviously love the Scandinavian swimmers in the candy. I love the like maple cookies with the like cream in the middle.
Hannah Paynter 1:12:36
Yep, all the has a I think I'll have to double check. I think all the integers have like similar suppliers or something like that there and I've had they're all the like maple cookies before.
Kristi Wagner 1:12:49
I might be wrong. But I believe that it was like so the their brothers or family members that own like Trader Joe's and Aldi's and they're children have like a foreign grocery store owner. Which is why it's like and so they they have like their own distribution plant, which is why everything is only Trader Joe's are all D brand and then cheaper. I could be wrong.
Hannah Paynter 1:13:22
Fact check. Incoming. Yeah, fact check me.
Kristi Wagner 1:13:26
Well, thank you for coming.
Hannah Paynter 1:13:28
You. Oh my gosh, I was so pumped when I got your text. There's nothing more than I'd rather do.
Kristi Wagner 1:13:41
Yes, yes. Okay, cool. Thanks, a milly. You're welcome.
To close the show. Today, we have our our quote of the week, which is my my favorite, my favorite section of the show now. And I'm just going to read this, Hannah and I talked about it but I'm going to read this whole quote from Ted last so that we had talked about I feel like it kind of goes in theme with the episode but also like the camp that just ended in the end the cuts and kind of sports being like up and down. So Ted lasso said this, I want you to be grateful that you're going through this sad moment with all these other folks because I promise you there's something worse than being sad and that's being alone and sad. There's nobody in this room alone. Let's be sad now and be sad together. I mean, I hope you're all very happy. But if you do have to be sad, I hope that you are not alone. And that you can share your sadness, because everyone deserves that. Okay, Thanks for listening
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