Siblings Unfiltered: Growing Up a Wagner | Episode 48

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Joe Wagner  0:05  
I guess at what age do you think you were most competitive?

Kristi Wagner  0:08  
That's a hard one. Probably. In my teenage years. Yes. So high school and maybe early college,

Joe Wagner  0:17  
I would say there's like the most amount of things to be juggling at those ages too. So the probably is channeled into competitiveness and just being high strung and all that I was talking to one of my colleagues about his son who's going through the college, you know, application process and the Facebook group for people are posting about where they're going in their report cards, and they're comparing everything and it's just like such a high pressure environment. I think that's gonna be really tough on kids.

Kristi Wagner  0:44  
Welcome to the other three years, a show for anyone who has an Olympic sized dream, they want to turn into a reality. Hi, and welcome to you this week's episode of the other three years. This week is super fun. I have my brother as my guest on the podcast. So I only have one sibling, I have a little brother, his name is Joe Wagner. And he is younger than me. But he is, I think, a little bit taller, or with the same height. I'm not exactly sure. But my brother is definitely the coolest Wagner sibling forever has been when we were younger, he was much better than me at sports. It's, I think, a bit crazy that I am the one that pursued athletics at the level I did. Because he definitely had way more hand eye coordination, and just was way better at all the ball sports and all that stuff growing up. No, I mean, I love Joe so much. I have so much respect for him. And I just think he is really great. I'm not even lying. Like, obviously, we fought a little bit when we were growing up. But now I just think it's so cool that he's my brother. And I'm so proud of him that he's turned into this, you know, incredible man, and that he's so successful in his business and in his life and everything. He's such a good friend, and now just this amazing husband and son and brother, and he's just like, really an all around great person. And I just feel so lucky that he's my brother. Because he's so supportive of me, and, you know, rowing but obviously, me beyond rowing, because he's my family. And I think he thinks that it's cool that I'm rowing, but mostly because I think he thinks it makes me happy. And you know, that's all we want for our loved ones is for them to be happy. So I hope that everyone enjoys our conversation. It was funny, it was definitely funny to have him on the podcast. Definitely a more professional conversation that we've ever had. We've definitely never had a recorded conversation. But I really appreciate him coming on. He's very busy. So I appreciate him coming on and taking the time and sharing an inside look into us growing up and me and our sibling relationship. So I think it's gonna be really fun for everyone to hear and learn a little bit more about us. And he works in commercial real estate in Boston. So if anybody needs anything there, he's the go to guy hit him up, but maybe don't because he's also really busy. But before we get into that, here's an update on what is currently going on in training. So we're still in selection camp still in Sarasota, Florida. Really not that much has happened since last week. But for me personally definitely been stringing together more consecutive training more consecutive good days. I did some workouts on the ERG last week in a very hot and humid tent. They built us this tent down here at Nathan Benderson Park and it is a very fancy tent and it's been really really great and it still is really great but oh my goodness. It's now hot in Florida. Like I feel like the temperature just suddenly swung and now it is hot like in the 80s and inside the tent it is humid and very sweaty. I am not a very sweaty person like I normally I'd say I'm a light to average sweater. I sweat during practice but I was completely drenched like dripping. It was looked like I jumped in a pool all of the days that I did ERG workouts in the tent so definitely had to be really careful to Refuel and rehydrate after those it's funny like it normally is better off the water than on the water like when it's hot. It's really hot on the water which it has been especially because it's been a little bit windy and when you're going into tailwind which means the wind is helping you it's just like suffocating if it's really hot because you just like can't even breathe. There's no sort of lead up But then you get to go the other way. When you're out on the water in the wind and when it's either a crosswind or a headwind, the breeze is kind of nice. But in the tent, it was just like, stagnant. Yeah, just hot and sweaty down here in Florida. It's been a little bit windy. It was a little windy this weekend and a little bit windy today, Monday, but it's supposed to get better as the week goes on. So that's exciting. And you know, you got to be able to row in any, any weather can't just be a good specific wind rower have to be adaptable and able to row in any conditions. So we're still getting out there. But yeah, it's it's just an intense time, you know, everyone's doing selection. And everyone's got big goals. So definitely just kind of buckling down on all of that I did go to there's a mini golf place owned by Tiger Woods, or I don't know if he owns it, established by Tiger Woods right near where we rolling where we're staying. So I did that on Saturday. I'm not very good at mini golf, which actually, I think Joe and I talked about in the episode. So that was interesting. But I did have fun. It was fun. It was a little more expensive than I think maybe it should have been. But that's okay. I'm happy to you know, help Tiger get even more wealthy. And but it was fun. It was nice. Something else to do a little walk around, move your body in a different way. So that was my fun weekend activity. We also had daylight savings, but it goes the other way. So you lose an hour of sleep. That's always kind of a bummer. And now it's very dark in the morning when we're going to bro. But it'll be late again soon. So Daylight Savings has become pretty controversial topic. And I just, you know, I feel like in life, you just have to pick your battles sometimes. And I just to me personally, daylight savings is not a battle that I am going to die on. Which is not to say that it's not an important thing for people to have opinions on. I think that that's totally fine and good. And I support people and whatever decisions and sort of advocacy they want to take forth. But for me, it's just not, you know, I'll adjust. Yeah, so those riveting things are kind of what's been happening recently. So now it's time for my conversation with my brother Joe Wagner. Okay, so Joe, welcome. Joe was my little brother. For people that don't know, how would you introduce yourself in the business business world?

Joe Wagner  7:25  
Hello. My name is Joe. Yes, I'm Christie's little brother. I am 29 years old.

Kristi Wagner  7:35  
Yes. And Joe works in commercial real estate. He lives in Boston. He just got married. He plays golf. He played golf in college. So we were both college athletes. But Joe played a lot of sports, which we're going to talk about. So Joe had me send him questions beforehand, which I will say when my mom was on the podcast she also asked for and I did not send her questions. Well,

Joe Wagner  7:58  
thank you very much for that. Very sweet. You're welcome.

Kristi Wagner  8:01  
Okay, so I thought first Joe, we could talk about when we were growing up, what that was like we can share an inside view of our childhood with the people that listen to the podcast, wonderful.

Joe Wagner  8:17  
Well, mom and dad tell me that when I was born, so when we were very young, you were very sweet. You loved me a lot. You were very nice. And then I guess when we got a little bit older, we're sometimes nice. And, and we, we had some sibling rivalries and some fights. But then as we got through, we became very, very close again, and have a wonderful relationship. Sincerely, so yes. I mean, I look very fondly back on our childhood and our upbringing. And I think we are very, very, very fortunate and had wonderful role models, our parents, our family and our friends. So that's

Kristi Wagner  9:08  
very lucky. Well, the funny thing is, obviously, our parents are pretty tall. And I feel like I've always been tall, but I'm only like a year older than Joe and I was so much bigger than him when we were kids. So that was probably an unfair advantage. I had an our

Joe Wagner  9:27  
unfair advantage and the fact that I had red hair so we got quite a few questions about if I truly belonged or not. I am six foot one now. So I think I do belong and I do think that I am a Wagner but yes, one of my early memories of Christie was that she was always taught.

Kristi Wagner  9:44  
Yeah, joke didn't make like the basketball team or baseball team. What? What was it when they said you were teased? Yes,

Joe Wagner  9:51  
I was. I was asked to stay after basketball practice sophomore year, and I thought that I had done something good, but they told me that I was just saying way too small and I was caught. So

Kristi Wagner  10:02  
sorry. I'm sorry to make you relive that but my, our dad was like, Are you serious? He's obviously going to get bigger like,

Joe Wagner  10:10  
yeah, she was like this, you want to come over and she had told me my wife and my daughter are like, very short sighted. So

Kristi Wagner  10:16  
yeah, but I feel like sports had a pretty big role in our lives growing up. You know, we both played lots of sports, I'd really argue that you were definitely like the more athletic one in our family.

Joe Wagner  10:30  
But yeah, sports were always yes. Always, always a big part of everything, whether it was playing or watching. I mean, some of my earliest memories are you know, of dad waking me up in 2004, to show me that the Red Sox were going to win the World Series tennis lessons in Key Biscayne with our cousins and grandparents, you know, football games with general and like all of those things. So, major part of our our lives and upbringing. My first word was ball. It wasn't Christie. So it was yes, it was always an enormous part. And I guess yes, I think probably partly because I didn't hit my Grossberg for a very long time, I was, you know, more coordinated and very coordinated. So my skill level might have been a little bit higher. But you know, my physical prowess might not have been there. So I think maybe early on, I had a little bit more skill, and athleticism. But I am now wearing a collared shirt and going to the office while you're training for the Olympics, so

Kristi Wagner  11:29  
yeah, but I mean, I think it's interesting, like being from Boston and growing up in the time that we grew up. You're right. watching sports also just had this sort of enormous impact. And I don't think only on us, but on like a lot of people of our generation.

Joe Wagner  11:48  
Yes. No, no, no, absolutely. I mean, we're, yeah, we're from Boston, Sports City. And it was in our blood. It was in our water.

Kristi Wagner  11:57  
We had no choice. We had no choice. We had no choice. Have you been? You've been watching the dynasty? I

Joe Wagner  12:03  
have. Yes. Jenny and I have been watching the dynasty. It has been great. Yeah, it's been it's been lovely. We were at home for Mama's birthday. And so we watched a episode with dad. And it was the episode where the Patriots lost the Super Bowl to not have a perfect season against the Giants and dad decided that he didn't like that series, a dynasty because that one episode. I understand why he might not have liked it based off that one case study. But

Kristi Wagner  12:33  
he hadn't watched any of the other notes. He just watched that

Joe Wagner  12:36  
read the book, though. I think he I think it was but yes. He was like, Oh, this isn't like the book.

Kristi Wagner  12:43  
That's hilarious. That's very classic dad situation. Yes. But it's so I've been I've really been enjoying it. I don't know. I feel like it's so good. Yeah,

Joe Wagner  12:53  
no, it's been great. I wouldn't be watching more of it if I knew how to work my TV, but I don't know how to work my TV. So I've only watched three episodes. That's the truthful answer.

Kristi Wagner  13:05  
So you need Jenny to watch. I

Joe Wagner  13:07  
don't think Jenny knows how to work with TV either. We just we haven't really got to work in TV in about a week and a half. We'll get there though.

Kristi Wagner  13:14  
We'll call someone I understand. Yeah. That's a new newly Well, life. Yeah. Okay. So what did you like about playing sports? When you were a kid, when you were little? And what do you still like about it? Because you still I mean, Joe works very, very hard. But I swear I we get pictures of him on the golf course, many days a week. So part of my job.

Joe Wagner  13:39  
What I like most about sports is the competitiveness. I like to win. I like to compete. I like there to be something to win. So that's certainly my favorite part. But I think a very close second part of it is community, especially as I'm getting older. And, you know, it's not as much about winning, it's always about winning, but it's about meeting people and being either competing, you know, meeting people you're competing against or that are on your team. It's the community aspect of it. It's there's nothing like sports that bring people together. And there's no better way to spend an afternoon then on a golf course. Maybe in a boat. I don't know. But yeah, I mean, it's, those are probably my top two things. My favorite things about sports.

Kristi Wagner  14:19  
Oh, do you want to tell everyone about your basketball league? Oh,

Joe Wagner  14:23  
what? My current Basketball League? Oh, yes. Well, I've grown so I get to play basketball again, which is nice. And I actually get to play basketball again, in the same place where I was cut, which is the Western Middle School gym. Do I play some basketball on Tuesday evenings with some guys that I work with? And many Western fathers, it's lovely. We get to run around and shoot some hoops and unwind from the workday.

Kristi Wagner  14:45  
Are you the youngest person that that's I am

Joe Wagner  14:49  
the youngest person that plays my friend James is the second youngest person that plays and then the third youngest is a little bit older than that.

Kristi Wagner  14:59  
That's is fun though. I feel like it would be fun to play a team sport like Yeah,

Joe Wagner  15:03  
absolutely. Absolutely. Winter sports are fun. I get to play some Paddle Tennis platform tennis and basketball, and golf simulators.

Kristi Wagner  15:11  
So what did you think about rowing when I started doing it like in high school?

Joe Wagner  15:18  
I saw it seems nice. It's certainly not for me, but that's nice.

Kristi Wagner  15:28  
I didn't think it was weird. I feel like it was a weird sport in our school.

Joe Wagner  15:32  
I don't think it was. No, certainly not. I mean, I had familiarity because some of our cousins grew up rowing. And we have the head of the Charles and Boston and like, it's a Yeah, it's a sport that's known. It's not like we were from a different area where it didn't have rowing. And it was like this completely foreign thing. But yeah, I mean, it was definitely a little bit weirder than golf or, you know, some of the more mainstream sports. Now, I thought, when he first started rolling it, I thought it was pretty neat. Because you were so good at it from the get go. I mean, you were what nationals and like that freshman boat, and, you know, that whole, you know, college recruiting process where I felt like that little brother from the blind side when like, every college coach was coming to the house with hats and be like, Hey, buddy, here's a hat from blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, oh, college recruiting proximately sick. It was not. Not the same for me. I actually had to like, reach out to coaches and beg them to take me but did you

Kristi Wagner  16:29  
ever consider rolling?

Joe Wagner  16:30  
No. Absolutely not. No, I think I've been in a boat once right once. I think once once once you are not bad. No, no, I, I mean, I like canoeing. I think stand up paddleboarding. Stand Up Paddle mornings. Alright. I liked it more than dad like that. Dad hated. Yeah, I didn't like it. I don't know more of a land sports guy. I think maybe boats. Since like we other sail lessons. Were another vineyard like way back when? Like, Oh, you didn't love that? Yeah, I think I never was like super interested in and being on the water.

Kristi Wagner  17:08  
You did play a sport in college.

Joe Wagner  17:10  
I did play recruit. I did play sport. I did get recruited. It was great. I mean, I loved my teammates. Our team was middle of the pack, I think is generous. And I like freshmen and sophomore year I was, you know, I think it was it was Division three. So I don't think it was as competitive as from Western High School, we win win win States every year. And it was we were the best and we were all best friends. And then I got the school and it was like, we weren't winning. And it wasn't as you know, competitive. And, you know, we had to miss class and social events. I was gonna say social events in class, but it was more upsetting that I had to miss class, I guess, for our golf tournaments. But no, I mean, overall, I still had a great experience with it. It was it was definitely a smaller piece of my college life. And I think rowing was yours. I still was a NCAA athlete.

Kristi Wagner  17:59  
Yeah, no, I mean, rolling was definitely a big thing. Did you think that I would was going to keep doing it after college? Or? No, that's gonna stop.

Joe Wagner  18:07  
No, I did not think that you're gonna do it at a call after college because you got a job?

Kristi Wagner  18:13  
Yeah. So were you surprised when I quit my job and decided to keep her I was.

Joe Wagner  18:21  
I was. I don't think you told me. I think Mom told me and you know how she gets a little bit awkward when she has, like some news to share that she doesn't know how she feels about it. So she was like, hi, Joey. Your sister. You know, quit her job and is gonna row and I was like, Oh, okay. Interesting. That's cool. I mean, I was what a junior in college or something. I feel like it would have like, more so been because you're in Boston. And if I were in Boston, it probably would have been more like a well, but I think it was still like, uh, well,

Kristi Wagner  18:58  
Mom and Dad were so like, I'm not sure that's the best idea.

Joe Wagner  19:06  
Well, yes, it all worked out. So it didn't work out. did work out. I'm sure they're happy. Now. That happened the way that it did.

Kristi Wagner  19:13  
Yeah. Do you enjoy attending rowing events?

Joe Wagner  19:17  
Most of them? Most of them? They're a bit more fun when you do well, which is

Kristi Wagner  19:22  
I'm not very fun when I don't do well.

Joe Wagner  19:25  
I'm not very fun when I don't play golf well either. So I get it. But no most I mean, getting to go to London is Pretty sweet. Getting to visit you in Florida going up to Saratoga. Yeah, I mean the the rowing events are great, but just it's usually with family and friends and seeing you and you know, that's that that all makes it pretty great. And I feel like I end up going to at least a couple rowing events every year. It's part of life now.

Kristi Wagner  19:53  
Yeah. Chris Adams always told a funny story that like at his first head of the Charles I like went by or whatever and he was like, Whoa, was that it? And you said something like, we've flown halfway across the world for those like 15 seconds. We

Joe Wagner  20:09  
have we have we've gone through Buffalo New York and up to Canada and now but yeah, we kind of Charles is awesome. And I usually get some good swag mom usually buys me some nice swag. I usually get like a nice sweater hat. shocks. So pretty good. Mom's

Kristi Wagner  20:25  
always buying you stuff at the regattas. Even the summer at Worlds she was like, I have to buy we have to go get something for Joe and Jen. Like, do you think they'll like this or whatever? It's like,

Joe Wagner  20:37  
no, the world stuff is awesome. Jenny has her sweatshirt. She wears her sweatshirt a lot. I think she was actually showing a home the other day and the buyer or something was like us rowing and she was like my sister in law's blah, blah, blah. So they got to very, very exciting. So it's helping her with their network. So thank you.

Kristi Wagner  20:54  
I've helped you network a little bit, haven't I? Absolutely. Like certain people. Yeah, that makes me feel good. Yes. Thank

Joe Wagner  21:02  
you. Thank you.

Kristi Wagner  21:03  
What was it like when I made the Olympic team? I guess maybe that whole year because you guys came to Florida for like singles trials. And yes,

Joe Wagner  21:14  
very exciting year. Yes. I remember the trials. And I was doing the running. I was faster than dad. But I was closer to the finish line, which was great. I mean, that was a blast watching you online when you qualified for Tokyo was insane. I was in my office screaming at the top of my lungs. And I think it was I think it was like a property manager came and he's like, Go, you're right there. And I was like, yes, my sister just made the Olympics. And he was like, Alright, very well. So that was very, very cool. Very exciting. I mean, obviously, we all know how much it meant to you to give up so much to get there. So it was emotional, but it was really special.

Kristi Wagner  21:59  
Yeah. No, it was then I remember we had steak from like Ruth's Chris. Oh,

Joe Wagner  22:06  
yes. When you flew home? Yes, yes. Yes, that was that was great. And I will always show up for some nice steak. Steak and mashed potatoes and probably some broccoli or asparagus. Like probably some chocolate cake. Even Louise chocolate cake. Yes. That was hilarious. I remember. balloons, balloons. I do, I think.

Kristi Wagner  22:24  
I think so. I just remember because dad was the dad was in Princeton, and then he drove us back to Weston. And he was like, obviously so hyped and so excited. And we stopped for pizza first and I was like, couldn't even eat the pizza. Didn't feel good. And then we finally got home and you guys are all like, Oh, we got all this steak, whatever. And dad just kind of pulls me aside. He's like, eat this.

Joe Wagner  22:54  
Okay. That reminds me of when I mean on Mac stopped for McDonald's before Thanksgiving. I one time. Sorry, sorry to blow up your spot. Min and Max if you're listening.

Kristi Wagner  23:07  
That was hilarious. And then you guys had a pretty funny experience trying to watch the final of the Oh,

Joe Wagner  23:15  
yes. That was that was quite insane. Yes, we were there was a massive storm. We were in Weston, we had it all set up. And then the power went out. So we had dog get in the car. And it was like 10 minutes before we drove over to wall Sam we went to where we go, Jake and Joe's like sports bar. And some of the people were trying to be nice being like, oh, Lord, daughter or friend or whatever. You know, she's like growing in the Olympics. And I'm like, put the thing on. Let's go. I was not being as nice. Goof. Yeah, that was stressful. It was stressful. But we got it. We got it. I think while we were also following on our like phones, I think. So he kind of was Yeah. So this year, we'll be there in person.

Kristi Wagner  23:59  
Yes, yeah. Yeah. I, I obviously wasn't there. But apparently Joe was like yelling at the bartender or the whatever guy to put that they got. And he's like, Is your sister of racing at the Olympics right now? No, I don't think you understand. Like you're saying you understand? I don't think you understand.

Joe Wagner  24:18  
I'm usually very sweet. Usually someone else in my family does that. But I guess I have a little bit of that and me.

Kristi Wagner  24:27  
Know, it's stressful. And that's just like, I mean, and the other thing is like, so where are parents live? There's no internet, like no cell phone service at all. So if the internet's out like you just there's you can't do

Joe Wagner  24:40  
it. Yeah, it was not a good situation.

Kristi Wagner  24:43  
What are you what I mean, myself would be named to the team. So knock on wood, but what would what are you looking forward to about the Olympics? I mean, besides like, obviously watching me which I know it would be the highlight.

Joe Wagner  24:58  
Yeah, I mean, just everything. You know, I was pretty excited about the potential the prospect of going to Tokyo. I mean, I studied abroad in Shanghai, and I've gone to China three times abroad to learn Chinese and like engages awesome. And Tokyo, Japan is supposed to be insane. So I mean, there was so much hype for that. And for short instance, I think we've thought that we were going so that was disappointing that we weren't able to go. So just to be going and, you know, knock on wood, like you said, but to just get to go and be a part of that entire whatever the village and the festivities in the other sports. And then, I mean, obviously, you're in Paris in the summer. I don't think it gets much better than that. So that all sounds pretty good. And nice baguette. Americano? I don't know.

Kristi Wagner  25:45  
Yeah, but I feel like it is. I don't know, I was definitely sad. Well, obviously, I was sad that you guys couldn't come but it's just kind of crazy. Like you and mom and dad and you know, whatever other people in our family have made such like sacrifices as well to help me get achieve my goals and stuff. And I feel like they do so much to make everyone feel like the magnitude of the moment when I was there. And so I was definitely sad that you guys didn't get to experience that because it is like a big deal. You know? Yes. No,

Joe Wagner  26:21  
of course. Yeah. And you guys didn't you have to like I mean, you didn't fully experience the whole thing, either. Because you had to be sent home, like at a certain time after the last race. And I'm sure you're probably pretty excited at the prospect of getting to fully embrace and enjoy with.

Kristi Wagner  26:34  
Yeah, we couldn't go to anything else. And we love you had to leave within 24 hours of your event ending so it's

Joe Wagner  26:42  
crazy. Yeah, and the best best thing I'm most looking forward to it, too, is that I'll be playing in the golf competition there. So naturally, that's that's pretty cool. Hopefully our competition don't, you know, go get scheduled. Yeah. scheduled on the same day. That would be unfortunate mom and dad do it up to, you know, divide and conquer. But parent

Kristi Wagner  27:05  
teacher conference tonight all over exactly. Who do you think is more competitive between the two of us?

Joe Wagner  27:15  
Like, generally, if we were to say, like, across the board, in everything that we do, I would

Kristi Wagner  27:22  
say you are. You're pretty competitive, though.

Joe Wagner  27:25  
I'm pretty competitive. But I mean, you're very competitive. Everything is competitive. I think I like him not as

Kristi Wagner  27:32  
competitive. I've mellowed out a little bit. As I've gotten older. Yes.

Joe Wagner  27:37  
But I think it's yes, like, Yeah, but I think like, if there were 10 activities in a day, I think nine of the 10 You'd probably be competitive at. And I'd probably be like six or seven out of 10. So both, both more than the typical person. I would, I would say, but I think Uverse may have maybe you a little bit more. Yeah. What do you think? Yeah, maybe see, you're great.

Kristi Wagner  28:05  
I think so. I do think I've like, mellowed out a little bit, of course. But we both like to win. Winning

Joe Wagner  28:13  
is much more fun than losing. I mean, I had a handful of business pitches today. And you know, one of them, we actually saw our competitors leaving the pitch when we were walking into the pitch. So you know, that makes it a little bit more spicy. So we'll win that one.

Kristi Wagner  28:31  
Yeah, I mean, I feel like it's, it's cool, because while we do very different things on our day to day, I feel like we can both be so impressed and like proud of each other. Which is really nice. Absolutely.

Joe Wagner  28:48  
Your older sister role model?

Kristi Wagner  28:51  
No, you're my role model to one day, I hope to make as much money as I know and do a lot of

Joe Wagner  29:00  
all right, right, right. You will, you can do anything you want to do.

Kristi Wagner  29:06  
Thank you. Thank you. No, but I mean, I feel like it's so crazy to me, like people talk about their siblings. And I'm like, You're crazy. Like, Well, I only have one sibling. You're the only person that will be there my whole life. No, it's Yeah, experience everything that I experience. It's and

Joe Wagner  29:30  
it's, ya know, it's pretty special. And I think I mean, I'm biased because I have an older sister younger brother, but I think that of the you know, for kind of typical sibling relationships, sisters, brothers, older brother, younger sister, you know, boys can fight with each other girls can fight with each other older brother can be too protective. So I think that just the dynamic that we have is pretty special and has created the following that we share.

Kristi Wagner  29:55  
Sure, yeah. Yeah, I feel like the people would have wanted us to be like, Yeah, we hate each other. That makes for good podcast listening. But well, they

Joe Wagner  30:05  
would have to bring us to a mini golf course to really see that

Kristi Wagner  30:14  
I haven't lost my mind playing mini golf and along, I learned

Joe Wagner  30:16  
how to throw golf clubs on the chorus from Christie when we played mini golf. So

Kristi Wagner  30:23  
I have not, I am not the best mini golfer and I'm a sore loser. Any anything like that mini golf, bowling. Oh, yeah, bowling. Okay. You don't want to do that? No. Do you have any questions for me?

Joe Wagner  30:38  
I guess at what age? Do you think you were most competitive?

Kristi Wagner  30:42  
That's a hard one. Probably. In my teenage years?

Joe Wagner  30:48  
Yes.

Kristi Wagner  30:49  
So high school and maybe early college?

Joe Wagner  30:54  
Yeah, no, that's fair. I would say there's like the most amount of things to be juggling at those ages too. So the probably is channeled into competitiveness and just being high strung and all that.

Kristi Wagner  31:05  
I don't think it helped me that. I mean, Weston is was obviously so great. But the amount of competition in school, I think also was pretty hard for me.

Joe Wagner  31:19  
Absolutely. I was talking to one of my colleagues about his son who's going through the college, you know, application process and the Facebook group for people are posting about where they're going in their report cards, and they're comparing everything and it's just like such a high pressure environment. And I think that's gonna be really tough on kids.

Kristi Wagner  31:38  
Yeah, I feel like there was just so much comparison at Western High. Like everyone knew everyone else's business. Yeah. Which I just don't think is true everywhere. Right. And I was talking to someone about Naviance. Do you remember that?

Joe Wagner  31:57  
Yeah. That was the one that was like, hey, one person applied. This was their GPA. This was their SATs score. And it was like, Yeah, I went to Pitzer College, everyone can tell exactly what my scores were and what my GPA was.

Kristi Wagner  32:07  
Yeah, exactly. Well, everyone could tell exactly what mine were. Because my thought was, like, everybody else is gone.

Joe Wagner  32:16  
Yeah, yeah, exactly. And then you start getting attacked for like, yeah. Oh, you didn't deserve to go there. Because you're, yeah. Craziness. When am I going to see you next?

Kristi Wagner  32:28  
I don't know. I wish I could go to Miami this weekend. Joe's coming to Florida this weekend. I'll be in Florida this weekend. See? Our good friends and then our grandparents. But I just we have practice.

Joe Wagner  32:42  
I understand. Well, a wave to you across the across the great state of Florida.

Kristi Wagner  32:48  
I don't know. I'll probably well, it's a little unclear to me if we'll stay in Florida through April. Because in May, I think we'll go to Europe for the Second World Cup. And I don't know if we'll go back like to Princeton and be on the east coast before that, or if we'll just stay in Florida. So it's obviously a lot easier to get home. Nice. If not, hopefully, later this summer, definitely later this summer. Otherwise, we just got to start attending Johnny's trips. Okay. Looks pretty good

Joe Wagner  33:22  
to be on the beach drinking in Mexico right now.

Kristi Wagner  33:27  
I think I'm just gonna stick to your guy's social calendar next year,

Joe Wagner  33:30  
do it. You can you can come see how the other half come and join anytime you'd like. Thank you very much for having me on your podcast.

Kristi Wagner  33:39  
Thank you. Oh, do you have any favorite quotes? I always end the show with a quote.

Joe Wagner  33:43  
No, I don't have a favorite quote. But I have a favorite joke. Which mom really likes. Which is where does a general keep his armies? Oh my God. He keeps them in his sleeve. He's yep, that's that's the one. So it's hilarious. And I'll leave everyone with that.

Kristi Wagner  34:05  
My mom used to tell this joke all the time. Because our grandfather we called him general. So she thought it was very funny. It is funny. Joe thinks it's very funny now apparently. Well, Joe was a class clown. So I guess we could take it from. Yeah. Well, thank you for coming on. I really appreciate it.

Joe Wagner  34:24  
Thank you for having me. I love you.

Kristi Wagner  34:26  
I love you too. So I hope everyone enjoyed my conversation with Joe. I'm so grateful to him for coming on. And I hope that everyone enjoyed a sneak peek into what it was like being a Wagner child growing up the Western Wagner's as my cousins called us because I have other Wagner cousins. So to end the show. This week, I'm going to share a quote from this book that my mom gave me again, that is again called You are amazing. And it has a lot of really inspirational quotes and they're not all cheesy, but for some reason the one ones that I like are well I like all of them. The ones I've chosen to share a little bit funny and cheesy. So this one is from Iris Murdoch. I don't know who that is. I'm sorry Iris. And they say one of the secrets of a happy life is continuous small treats. So I hope everyone has a small treat or big treat in honor of me today. Okay, have a good week. Thanks. See you next time. Bye. I'd love to hear from you. So send us a topic suggestion or if you'd like to submit a question for our Ask Christy anything segment, head to our website, the other three years.com

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